This page is a continuation of ' MULLER Photo Collection - LIEBELT and KUCHEL '

 'Descendants of Daniel KUCHEL, Johann George KUCHEL & Anna Dorothea SEIFFERT, Anne Elizabeth STEINBORN & Johann Christian LIEBELT, Anna Dorothea GREISER & Johann Gottfried LUBASCH '

and covers the marriage and descendants of

Johanna Louise KUCHEL (1840-1922)

1st child of:  Johanna Dorothea Elizabeth KUCHEL and Johann Gottfried Erdmann KUCHEL .

 

Janis Haynes, I am the author of this article

I am an amateur historian/genealogist and contributor to articles on this Adelaide Hills LocalWiki.  My attention focus's on any and all things to do with the passengers of 'Zebra' which arrived here on the 29 December 1838.  I write on their marriages, homes, farm lands, movements, interactions and stories, and where possible I base it around the many photographs and records that are still available today in descendants homes.  By adding 'Janis Haynes' to the 'Search Adelaide Hills' space you will find all of my articles, some of which are a work in progress.  

I also have a website for my none German ancestors 'https://rosecottagefamilyhistory.com', which has been a bit neglected of late.

I love working with Tony Finnis on his site because whatever story I am working on I can add and change it whenever I discover something new.  Tony has given me a lot of editing help and he stresses that the content is always up to me, my pages are my own to creatively preserve the images that I can now share with you all.  My pages are the result of people like Beryl BENHAM, Glenn LIEBELT, John MÜLLER and others who have generously allowed me to scan their photos in their homes, and then allowed me to share those images through my articles.  Feel free to copy any photographs and reference them as normal. 

 

 

This article was last updated 23 July 2022

Aim of article

Display the unique photographic collection belonging to John Mueller connected to this the 1st child of the KUCHEL & KUCHEL marriage of 

Through family tree analysis identify the individuals captured by the camera.

Through record and documentation research identify their early land acquisitions and possibly farm/home sites.

 

Table of Contents (based on Family Tree)

1.   Johanna Louise KUCHEL (1840-1922)

1.1  Marriage:   Eduard David GREGOR in 1859

1.2  Family:  10 children between 1861-1880

1.3  Golden Wedding Celebration: 1909

2.  Gottlieb Edward GREGOR  (1872-1951):  

     6th child of Johann Louise KUCHEL and Eduard David GREGOR

            2.1  Married- Edith Mary COLLINS in 1900

3.  Muller Photo Collection

3.1  'Gregor' Photos

3.2  Unidentified Photos

4.  References & Notes

 

1.   Johanna Louise KUCHEL  (1840-1922)

Johanna Louise KUCHEL was born, Brandenburg, Prussia.

1.1  Marriage

At 20 years she married Eduard David GREGOR, 23 years of age, married 26 May 1859, Evangelical Lutheran Church, Hahndorf, South Australia.

"The eldest daughter (Johanne Louise KUCHEL) married Eduard David GREGOR It is said that they farmed the Kirchenbergen property for a while and then lived the rest of their lives at Sailors Gully, near the Onkaparinga River.  The descendants of their children still live in the district"     (Kuchel  page 6)

Eduard David GREGOR (1835-1910) was the son of Christian Dorothee NEUMANN  (b1799) and Johann Christian GREGOR (b1795), Eduard had an older sister Henriette Wilhelmine GREGOR (1826-1833) and a brother Wilhelm August GREGOR (1828-1828).  His parents were married 14 May 1822, Karge, Karge, Bomst, Posen, Prussia. 

1.2  Family  -  Johanna Louise KUCHEL and Eduard GREGOR's 10 children

├──   Wilhelmine Henrietta GREGOR (1861-1945: marriage records not found, children with August HOLST  (b unknown) had 3 children between (1884-1890). 

├──  Carl August Lebrecht GREGOR (1863 death date not found):  married 13 April  1886, PM Chapel, Woodchester, Strathalbyn, Bessey PHILLIPS  1834-1914, had 1 child in 1899.

├──  Maria Louise Gregor GREGOR (1865-1953): married 4 April 1888, PM Church, Mt Barker,  William WOODLAND  1863-1937, had 3 children between (1893-1902).

├──  Friedrich Wilhelm GREGOR  (1868-1919): never married.

├──  Johanna Louisa GREGOR  (1870-1947):  married 19 September 1893 Registry Office, Adelaide,  to Albert SOAR (1868c -1949) had 2 daughters in 1893 and 1895.

├──  Gottlieb Edward GREGOR  (1872-1951): married 13 June 1900, St Michael Church, Hahndorf, Edith Mary COLLINS 1880-1948 had 4 known children between (1901-1914) 

├──  Lydia Elizabeth GREGOR  (1873-1957): married 26 September 1900, St Michael Lutheran Church, Hahndorf, Henry Martin BERRY (1873-1914) had 2 daughters in 1901 and 1910.

├──  Emma Dorothea GREGOR (1876-1928): married at 43 years of age, 31 May 1919, St Margarets, Woodville, to 50 year old Graham Benjamin MARSH (1869-1930). No children.

├──  Anna Auguste GREGOR (1878-1958): Sailors Gully, Nairne, married 27 December 1899, Residence of her parents, Hahndorf, Alfred James BURFORD (1875-1957) had 1 daughter in 1902.

└──  Alma Ottilie GREGOR (1880-1957): married 13 February 1906, St Michael Lutheran Church, Hahndorf, Friedrich Wilhelm 'Bill' BRAENDLER  (1878-1964) had 2 daughters 1910 and 1913.  

1.3   KUCHEL/GREGOR Golden Wedding Anniversary, 26 May 1909

Sitting below: Johanne Louise Kuchel now 70 years & with the white beard, Eduard David Gregor now 73 years of age.

The above is a trimmed photo from the 50th Anniversary one below.  All 7 daughters and 2 of the 3 sons are present.

  • Back row: 2nd from left is their 6th child:  Gottlieb Edward GREGOR (b1872)
  • Back row: middle is possibly his brother the 4th child: Friedrich Wilhelm GREGOR  (b1868)
  • This leaves Carl Charles August GREGOR as the missing son in this photo.

 

 

Trimmed photo above:  is it Friedrich Wilhelm GREGOR holding the bottle (at his brother's wedding), Gottlieb Edward GREGOR the groom is front left, taken 9 years before the Golden Wedding photo above.

Trimmed photo above has been taken from the family group 50th wedding anniversary photo above.  It shows the same two 

brothers Gottlieb Edward GREGOR on the left and possibly Friedrich Wilhelm GREGOR below him on the right.

  • Eduard David GREGOR he died the next year, 24 November 1910. 
  • Johanna Louise KUCHEL lived to be 82 years of age.

Reverse:

 'Gregor'

Reverse:

'Golden Wedding ? Gregor'

2.    Gottlieb Edward GREGOR (1872-1951)

6th child of Johanna Louise KUCHEL and Eduard David GREGOR

2.1  Married -  in 1900 married Edith Mary COLLINS.

 

 

 

Edith Mary COLLINS (1880-1948)

Photo by 'Stump & Co, Rundle St and King Wm St, Adelaide. Alfred Stump opened his Rundle St studios in 1889.

 

 

 

Reverse: 'Mrs Gottlieb GREGOR'

Edward GREGOR (1872-1951) aged 28 years,  married 13 June 1900, St Michael Church, Hahndorf, Edith Mary COLLINS (1880-1948) aged 21 years, photograph above.

  •  The bride Edith Mary Collins's  parents Susannah BARRETT and George COLLINS, had 11 children and Edith was number eight.
    • Edith's siblings  were:  Alfred James b1863, Caroline b1864, Ellin Jane b1867, Louisa Rebecca b1870, William Charles 1872-1942, Edward George b1874, Rosina Eliza b1875, Lilly Matilda b1875, Arthur James b1878, Edith Mary, and the 17 year , 'Herb'  Herbert Richard 1883-1957, sitting in the photo below on the far right, aged 17 years.
  • The groom, Edward GREGOR's  mother is the older sister of Gottlieb KUCHEL, who's 6th child, Maria 'Emma' KUCHEL (1881-1923), is in the photo below in a dark long dress aged 19 years.
    • Hence Emma is a 1st cousin to Edward GREGOR.  
    • Emma later married Wilhelm Albert EY in 1812.  
    • Emma is the great Aunt of John MULLER the owner of this photo collection

Gregor / Collins wedding 1900

Reverse:

'Gottlieb Gregor wedding'

Reverse:

Unreadable

Reverse:

'Emma Kuchel, Herb Collins'

  • Photo top left, the groom, Edward GREGOR holds his hat in his lap, and does not have a bow tie on.
  • In the middle photo the groom has a bow tie on, but his hat is on the ground under the chair.
    • All four males have glasses of liquid and the man on far right is holding a brown bottle.
    • The bride, Edith COLLINS is in the background on the right.  
  • Photo top right, note the boot in the foreground.
  • All of the backgrounds are identical and all 3 photos are taken by Edmund DIEDERICH the groom's uncle by marriage.                         

3. Muller Photo Collection

3.1  'Gregor' Photos

Is the above Louise and Eduard GREGOR with possibly their third born Maria Louise GREGOR b 1865 ?

Reverse - 'Gregor'

'HAEHNEL & Co Australian Photographic Company'

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Can you identify these  2 little girls ?

Reverse - 'Gregor'

C.W. Haehnel was a South Australian photographer around the mid to late 1880's.

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Unidentified photograph by 'Hammer & Co' . William Hammer began his photographic business  in 1882.

Reverse - 'Gregor'

The above two photographs (Left & centre) with identical backgrounds and similar clothing were possibly taken on the same day.  While 'Gregor' is written on the reverse I can only surmise that these photos belong to the Gregor family of Johanne Louise KUCHEL and her husband Eduard David GREGOR.

3.2  Unidentified Photos

 

 

Two adult with a small boy and young girl. The adults have some resemblance to the family above and the neck wear of the females is also similar.

This photo is unidentified, there is no indication that it is a 'Gregor' family.

Can you identify this photograph?

While it is difficult to see there could be some similarities with the girls in the above photos. This photo is unidentified, there is no indication that it is a 'Gregor' family photo.Can you identify this photograph?

            

3.   References and Notes

3.1 References

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3.2 Notes

If further details and information is required please access the complete list of Tagged Pages of the Muller Photographic Collection'